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	<title>Comments on: Digital Economy Bill Threatens Public Wi-Fi Hotspots</title>
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		<title>By: Davide C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davide C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kurt

Since you wrote about that Italian court vs Google, I&#039;ll try to explain the current Italian legislation about wi-fi hotspots.
If you share an internet connection through a wi-fi hotspot, you have more obligations than an ISP, because you share a single IP address between users and police officers want to know what each connected user does at any time.

Therefore you must keep (for 12 months) a huge log of ALL the internet activity (destination IP addresses) of every user that uses your wi-fi hotspot.
All users must be identifiable, through ID cards (you must keep a local copy), SMS or credit card.
You also must get an authorization from the police, in order to open a wi-fi hotspot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kurt</p>
<p>Since you wrote about that Italian court vs Google, I&#8217;ll try to explain the current Italian legislation about wi-fi hotspots.<br />
If you share an internet connection through a wi-fi hotspot, you have more obligations than an ISP, because you share a single IP address between users and police officers want to know what each connected user does at any time.</p>
<p>Therefore you must keep (for 12 months) a huge log of ALL the internet activity (destination IP addresses) of every user that uses your wi-fi hotspot.<br />
All users must be identifiable, through ID cards (you must keep a local copy), SMS or credit card.<br />
You also must get an authorization from the police, in order to open a wi-fi hotspot.</p>
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		<title>By: Mekhong Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mekhong Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I&#039;m an American, I won&#039;t presume to dwell on this in the domestic context of the UK. I will say I do hope it doesn&#039;t give my Congress and President any stupid ideas, and they do watch our &quot;Cousins&#039;&quot; legislation and court decisions quite closely (and rightly so, since our legal system rests, ultimately, on English Common Law).

I&#039;ll use examples from the US, since I can legitimately can pick on those in my role as an American citizen.

A few years ago, it became fashionable to hold gun makers responsible for misuse of their products by robbers, murderers, and the like.

This is akin to holding operators of a wi-fi system accountable for behavior of its users, something dear to many American lawmakers&#039; [black] hearts.

So let&#039;s push onward through the looking glass into pure La-La Land.

Some wannabe teenage driver is roaring along at 130 mph in a 50 mph zone and crashes, killing innocent people in another vehicle. Let&#039;s sue the automaker. And let&#039;s sue the government for not designing roads to handle cars traveling at ANY speed. And let&#039;s sue whoever planted that oak tree the innocent victims&#039; car smashed into -- you know, the tree that directly caused their deaths.

Why not? Hold those with NO role in ANY aspect of the accident accountable.

Heck, let&#039;s say a U.S. soldier commits a war atrocity and is court-martialed and found guilty. Let&#039;s try the area theater&#039;s commanding general, then work our way on up the line to the President. That makes as much sense as anything else I&#039;ve mentioned.

I&#039;m reminded of the recent conviction of some Google executives in an Italian court, convicted for something they had no role in nor, indeed, any knowledge of until the case arose. I probably wouldn&#039;t mention this case were it not true that Italy is an EU member but the Italian judge reportedly chose to ignore EU regulations in the case, those providing &quot;safe harbor&quot; to companies such as Google.

For the Cousins&#039; sake -- and, by extension, my own -- I do hope that Orwell doesn&#039;t prove to have been terribly prescient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;m an American, I won&#8217;t presume to dwell on this in the domestic context of the UK. I will say I do hope it doesn&#8217;t give my Congress and President any stupid ideas, and they do watch our &#8220;Cousins&#8217;&#8221; legislation and court decisions quite closely (and rightly so, since our legal system rests, ultimately, on English Common Law).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll use examples from the US, since I can legitimately can pick on those in my role as an American citizen.</p>
<p>A few years ago, it became fashionable to hold gun makers responsible for misuse of their products by robbers, murderers, and the like.</p>
<p>This is akin to holding operators of a wi-fi system accountable for behavior of its users, something dear to many American lawmakers&#8217; [black] hearts.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s push onward through the looking glass into pure La-La Land.</p>
<p>Some wannabe teenage driver is roaring along at 130 mph in a 50 mph zone and crashes, killing innocent people in another vehicle. Let&#8217;s sue the automaker. And let&#8217;s sue the government for not designing roads to handle cars traveling at ANY speed. And let&#8217;s sue whoever planted that oak tree the innocent victims&#8217; car smashed into &#8212; you know, the tree that directly caused their deaths.</p>
<p>Why not? Hold those with NO role in ANY aspect of the accident accountable.</p>
<p>Heck, let&#8217;s say a U.S. soldier commits a war atrocity and is court-martialed and found guilty. Let&#8217;s try the area theater&#8217;s commanding general, then work our way on up the line to the President. That makes as much sense as anything else I&#8217;ve mentioned.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of the recent conviction of some Google executives in an Italian court, convicted for something they had no role in nor, indeed, any knowledge of until the case arose. I probably wouldn&#8217;t mention this case were it not true that Italy is an EU member but the Italian judge reportedly chose to ignore EU regulations in the case, those providing &#8220;safe harbor&#8221; to companies such as Google.</p>
<p>For the Cousins&#8217; sake &#8212; and, by extension, my own &#8212; I do hope that Orwell doesn&#8217;t prove to have been terribly prescient.</p>
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